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Meeting Title |
The York Enhanced Partnership for Buses Forum |
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Date / Time |
Wednesday 11th July 2024 14:00-16:00 |
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Location |
Hybrid City of York Council, West Offices, York |
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Attendees |
Andrew McGuinness (AMG) Danielle Hudson (DH) Andrew Mortimer (AM) Lara Thornton (LT) David Merrett (DM) Cllr R Melly (Cllr RM) Cllr M Nicholls (Cllr MN) Andy D’Agorne (ADA) Sam Fryers (SFr) George Wood (GW) Cllr S Fenton (Cllr SF) Jacob Milner (JM) Richard Harrison (RHa) Niall McFerran (NM) Stuart Fillingham (SF) Richard Hampton (RH) Tom Horner (TH) Chris Thompson (CT) Dan Braidley (DB) Duncan McIntyre (DMc) David Beer |
Confederation Passenger Transport (Forum Chair) City of York council (CYC)
Badger Hill Residents Community group
City of York Council (CYC) York & District Trades Union Council CYC (Labour Group)
CYC (Conservative Group)
York Green Party City of York Council (CYC) York Older Peoples Assembly CYC (Lib Dem Group)
Turner and Townsend First Bus
York Bus Forum East Yorkshire buses
City of York Council (CYC)
City of York Council (CYC) Reliance buses representative York Hospital Representative City of York Council (CYC)
Transport Focus |
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Apologies |
Cllr K Ravilious David Smith |
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Circulation |
Attendees |
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Minutes By |
Danielle Hudson |
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Discussion |
Action |
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1.0 |
Introductions and Apologies |
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2.0 |
Housekeeping |
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2.1 |
Emergency evacuation routes stated |
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3.0 |
Minutes from previous meeting |
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3.1 |
Agenda Item to be set for the August meeting to discuss Park & Ride improvements. |
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4.0 |
BSIP Refresh and Targeting future funding |
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4.1 |
TH has suggested chatting through BSIP refresh in the next meeting. CYC has potential funding sources from DFT and mayoral pot and would like York to be in the best position for this funding. Local Transport plan has ambitious plans, by the end of the year hoping to have a strong strategic process. |
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4.2 |
ADA has asked if York has completed the bus connectivity study and if so, could this be put into public domain? TH has confirmed this has been completed and will check if this is able to be shared. |
TH |
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4.3 |
DM has asked if DFT was happy with the provisional update we have provided and if this was a funding bid. TH has confirmed DFT are happy with the light touch update from York, CYC have regular meetings with DFT regarding BSIP, this update was not a funding bid. |
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4.4 |
Cllr SF has asked for more information on current consultation which is out. TH has confirmed this is Marketing and comms teams to monitor how successful marketing is, will look to make this clearer. |
TH |
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4.5 |
DB has confirmed the factor which drives passenger satisfaction in York is timeliness and reliability. Would be great to stretch some of the current targets. |
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4.6 |
Cllr MN has asked is Mayor will be invited to attend the EP forum. TH has assured CYC will try and invite to future forum meeting. |
TH |
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4.7 |
SFr has explained that regarding the Mayoral authority there is no limit on the amount of EP’s there can be but the BSIP will be regionalised. |
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5.0 |
BSIP project update |
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5.1 |
JM provided verbal update of EP dashboard report DH will circulate with minutes. |
DH |
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5.2 |
TH provided update on the below: · Marketing survey which is out now which coincides with travel behaviour change work. ODG funding to cover this. · Tenders for subsidise services are currently out will review this on 22nd July. · Design work on P&R sites taking slightly longer than expected, once comfortable on officer level will present findings to group. |
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5.3 |
ADA would like to have more information on timescales and dates for projects. TH has explained we are reluctant to share this as the moment until CYC are more clear on this internally. |
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5.4 |
AMG asked if overnight parking at P&R has been implemented. TH has confirmed not yet and will email details over on this relating to securing car parks and payment system. |
TH |
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5.5 |
DM Raised issues on TOTO not always working, email will be sent over regarding this. |
DM |
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5.6 |
AM asked about BSIP 3 proposal including EV charging ports for future tendering of the P&R sites so Tendering is available to all. TH would like funding to look into this and see where this is possible, CYC would like to do study work on this by March and this would then provide recommended options. |
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6.0 |
Review ODG Agenda |
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6.a |
Matters to raise at the ODG meeting |
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6.a1 |
NM would like to see passenger data from operators. AMG to send over contact details if possible to NM for Louise to invite to the York bus forum meeting. |
AMG |
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6.a2 |
DM asked about BSIP 3 item on concessionary fares specifically on funding for under 25’s. SFR explained at the last ODG meeting 100k was agreed for 18-25 year olds for the YILTS (York Independent Living and Transport Skills) scheme. DM questioned this as was agreed to fund this for all under 25’s not just disabled passengers. SFr has stated CYC would look at doing this in next funding ask, would need longer fund stability to offer this to all under 25’s. |
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7.0 |
Major Project update |
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7.1 |
SFr provided update on York Central: · Coach stops on Leeman road should now be fully operational. · Resurfacing to be done kerb side is slightly on the high side but this is to be resolved ASAP. · Shelters have now been ordered. |
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7.2 |
SFr provided update on Station Frontage: · Piling works are still ongoing more than 50% now complete. · Further road closure will take place in Autumn this year and into the new year to remove the rest of Queen Street bridge. · Other pieces of work will take place to reroute the highway. |
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7.3 |
The following questions were asked off the back of the update: · Cllr RM asked what happened with Power supply to real time screens during works. RH confirmed this was the contractor who accidentally cut the power supply and there was a delay to get this back on but have been assured this will not happen again. · NM raised major concern over planning consent for station bus stop locations. (Opposing 4 stops rather than 5). SFr has explained there is no physical space for 5 bus stops, there will be a further 3 bus stops on the loop. TH/SFr to discuss further with the Project team. · NM asked if there were going to be any bus information points, RH has confirmed there will be 2 real time screens outside the station, where there is the pedestrian crossing there will also be another real time summary screen. |
TH/SFr |
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8.0 |
Dial and Ride Service |
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8.1 |
Cllr SF provided verbal update on Dial and Ride service in York, Service provided by York Wheels ended in December. Task and Finish group was set up to look at this, Recommendations have been made and will be taken to the Exec soon to progress next steps. |
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8.2 |
ADA would like this group to consider funding Dial and Ride service through BSIP. TH has confirmed will need to look into funding options for this. |
TH |
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9.0 |
Bus service update |
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9.1 |
SFr provided below update on Bus services: · Route 13- February Exec decision made to remove council support from service 13, decision was made to fund for a further 6 weeks so more reliable timetable could be made, service frequency will reduce from 30 minutes to 45 minutes but the service will still serve West nooks and Flaxman croft loop. · Route 1A – funding to be withdrawn at end of August. First are yet to decide whether it will continue in its current form. · Coastliner- increase in frequency over the school holidays. |
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9.2 |
AM suggested early marketing on change of frequency for park and ride sites. SFr has explained press releases will be done on this and information has been posted already on First website and information is going to be on social media. |
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9.3 |
NM expressed a reduction in frequency for a variety of routes does not align with BSIP. |
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10.0 |
Passenger Liaison group and addressing smaller matters |
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10.1 |
NM suggested joining the passenger liaison group with the York bus forum. |
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11.0 |
Bus stop Vandalism |
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11.1 |
AM asked if there is more, we can do as a group on this matter. DH has a suggested discussing at the next meeting data can be shown on this. |
DH |
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12.0 |
Mobility scooter accessibility on buses. |
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12.1 |
Cllr KR to bring this to the next meeting. |
DH |
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13.0 |
Update Task and Finish group |
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13.1 |
DMc provided verbal update on Task and Finish group, Tracker to list issues and show progress on these issues, one meeting already happened. Another meeting is due to take place hoping to make progress on this. |
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14.0 |
Questions for bus operators |
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14.1 |
NM raised concern over fares increase due on behalf of School children. Rha explained fare increases are due to operational costs and having to reflect fares effectively. Under 16’s will still travel for free with an adult and children travel for £1 single fair. |
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15.0 |
Date and times for next meetings: |
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14th August 2024 – 16:00 – 17:00 |
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11th September 2024 – 10:00 – 11:00 |
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09th October 2024 – 14:00 – 16:00 |
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13th November 2024 – 16:00 – 17:00 |
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11th December 2024 – 10:00 – 11:00 |
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