Operational Delivery Group
DRAFT AGENDAMINUTES – 20th
October 2023 11:00-13:00 (online)
1) Introductions and Apologies (Keith McNally)
In attendance:
· Keith McNally – Chair (KM)
· Joanne Waddington – CYC Interim Head of Sustainable Transport (JW)
·
Paul Walter Turner – Commercial
Director, TransdDev
(PT)
·
Lara ThorntonBolton
– CYC Comms Manager for
Transport, CYC (LT)
·
Nico Bosetti
– Senior Transport Planner,
at Momentum Transportation
(NB)
·
Andrew Clarke
– Public and Community Transport Manager, at
North Yorkshire Council
(AC)
·
Andrew
McGuinness – Regional Manager
for CPT, (AM)
·
Andrew Fozzard
– Commercial Development Manager, for
First (AF)
·
Tom Bridge –
Operationss Director, for
First (TB)
·
Richard Hampton
– Public Transport Infrastructure
Manager, for CYC (RH)
· Laura Wright – Accountant, CYC (LW)
·
Chris MottersShaw – Transport
Commissioning Manager,
for East Riding of Yorkshire Council
(CM)
·
Sam
Fryers – Public Transport
Planner, CYC (SFr)
·
Stuewart Fillingham – Head of
Commercial Development,
for East Yorkshire Buses (SFi)
·
Tomhomas James – Managing
Director, York Pullman
(TJ)
· Ethan Mantle – Executive Assistant, CYC (EM)
· Duncan McIntyre – iTravelYork Programme Manager, CYC (DM)
Apologies: Craig Temple, ConnexionsBusesfrom connections; and
Paul Moses, First apologies.
2) Agree minutes and actions from previous meeting (Keith McNally)
KM revieweds
minutes from 26th July meeting.
·
Outstanding action for CYC to talk
to SFi regarding Betterpoints, but there
werethis has
not happened
due resource constraints at PullmanEY. These are no longer
an issuein place, SFi is open to the
conversation moving
forwardsmeeting taking place.
Action:
This conversation meeting to now take
place.
·
Kayleigh Harrison (First)e, SFrSam
and Michael Howard (CYC) had actions
Mike were to respond to the forum
via Andrew. 8 mins.
o
AFC
respondeds regarding the issues around
the removal of short-distance fares from the
“tap on, “tap off” platform.. There is potential for tickets to
be added to thea York by Bus SsmartCcard, this is in the process of
being updatedimplemented.
o AM updates around price disparity, this has been acknowledged. The data does not support the argument, only a small number of passengers impacted.
o
SFr updates regarding the sustainability of
supporting additional withdrawn servicesadvised that expenditure on supported services is not
sustainable in the longer term, therefore a network review
is being undertaken.
·
AM updates on First
to attend every forum meeting, currently going well. SFi to
attenddeputise for AM at the next
forum.
·
There were no further
notes.
3) Network Review (Joanne Waddington / Momentum Consultancy)
·
Nico BosettiNB providesgave a presentation on the scope
and purpose of the bus network review.
o
The purpose is to give an overview of the work
being undertaken.
§
There is aThe review will key focus on subsidised
routes, to identifying
challenges and find
opportunities and challengesopportunities. Care Key areas of research are
accessibility, reliability, frequency, and usage.
§
The study will take
6 – 8 weeks covering,
frequency of service, network catchment, amenity density,
equality of access, future
developments, wait times and routing.
§
Ticketing and infrastructure are
not Detailed
patronage and
revenue data is
not captured in this study.
·
Options for improvement:The following
areas are being investigated:
o
Accessibility to
city centre from the Acomb,
Woodthorpe and Tang Hall area. less-well served areas.
o
Additional P+R stopping places.
o Consolidating routes to reduce duplication.
o
Early termination of services to avoid
congestion trafficTerminating some
services short of the city centre to avoid more congested
areas.
o
Timetable General route and timetable
changes.
Comments:
·
PT raises queriedy
chart labelled around as peak being 6 – 7pm.,
in PM peak
is experience
peak is normally
considered to
be 4 – 5pm. PT also takes issue with the early
termination of services prior to city centre.
o
NB
confirmeds that the peak refers to evening
peak not overall pm peak so will make the labels
clearer moving forwards.
·
PT further addsadded that the evening peak is
still below off peak for the rest of the day, so to not put that
into consideration for the data around the rest of the
day.
o
NB
adviseds he will take these comments away
and make the report reflective of them. In the initial drafting, it
was not felt that service frequency does not change much between
8am – 6pm.
o
SFr further
reinforces that this is purely frequency analysis on current
provisions. Currently there is no data for anything more in
depthnoted that the
study is focusing on analysing service frequencies, which are generally constant during daytime
hours, rather than patronage which is much more subject to
peaks.
·
TB offers stated that the impact of adding further stops
on P+R routes needs to be
considered very carefully.
· SFr agreed.
·
AF
querieds whether there is any more up to
date data than the 2021 census.
o NB: we have been given the boarding data too, but we have only used the census in a limited but helpful way. The early termination idea is still a work in progress and we are looking at how best to facilitate this. It is also not being explored for all lines.
Action:
Slide packs to be shared with the minutes.
4) BSIP update (Joanne Waddington)
·
Officer overview obligation has been
fulfilled.
· Bus Priority Infrastructure
o Currently looking at corridor approaches to the city centre as well as movement around the city centre. Opportunities for new infrastructure to improve reliability.
· Radial routes
o Team has been appointed to look at concept designs for Fulford Road for bus priority.
o
City centre study
results are in, so the process
has begun around picking out designs for
thisdesign process
has begun,
though it is currently at early
stages. Action:
More detailed update to come in January.
· Park & Ride
o
Consultancy
report has been brought on board to
review existing position provision and how it can move towardsP&R sites can be developed into
a more multi-modal transport
hubs. This includes
provision for overnight parking and for inter-urban services
to call at P&R
sites.
o Draft report expected by the end of the week. Further details to follow at January meeting.
· Bus stop infrastructure
o
Premium bus stops
have been put ininstalled on at
Station Ave and Tower Street.
o
First batch of new
Real-Timereal-time information units screens are being rolled out and
should be completed by the end of the month. These will include REACT functionality for blind
and partially sighted bus users.
o Life-expired RTI screens will be replaced.
o LED lighting, raised bus stop kerbs and hard standing improvements are all being planned.
· Summary to be included with minutes.
Comments:
·
KM
suggesteds that there should be facilities
for coach services to stop at Park &
Ride sites.
o
JW
confirmeds this is within the
scope.
No further comments.
5) ZEBRA update (First / ALL)
TB to lead on update.
·
All vehicles have
been delivered; site works at James St
depot have taken longer but will be complete by
mid-November. Middle of
November until site is back. Issues around power into the site, to combat
this, different powers of charger are charging different vehicles.
Plan to be fully electric by the end of November
.Delays on
the Northern
Powergrid side mean that the full charging
capacity is not yet available, but a
highly-optimised
charging regime has been designed to ensure all buses
receive sufficient overnight charge to fulfil
the next
day’s service
requirement.
· All university buses will also be electric by the end of Nov.
Comments:
·
RH queries queried whetherif there will be capacity to charge
all vehicles by the end of November.
o
TB
confirmeds that yes, there is a workable,
meticulous plan in place.
·
JW
advised thats a second round of ZEBRA funding
has been announced and CYCYork hasve
expressed interest in this. CYC is keen to
engage with the smaller operators. 1hr
o
RH addeds
that TransDdev have come back and said they would like to
investigate electrifying some of their
vehiclesexpressed
interest in electrifying
their local fleet.
·
PT askeds
if the council considering a requirement for 0
emissions vehicles for renewal.CYC will require zero-emission buses when
tendered services come up
for renewal.
o
SFr advised that current CYC policy is to specify a minimumstandard of Euro
VI fortendered
services, however elected
members may decide to
review this in future. confirms as it
stands, no. This will be review in line with the political
priorities.
6) Operator Updates (ALL)
York:First (AF/TB):
1.
AF provide Commercial
update.
a. Network changes
Slight Minor changes happening in October around the university to
the 66, 67 and C1to University
services in October, extending
service 67 to the rail
station.
Punctuality good but always room for improvement.
b. Impact of £2 fare scheme extension not currently known.
Action:
AF to review
and respond withimpact of
£2 farethis and come
back.
1.
TB provides operational overview.
Outlook is overallPositive outlook, but positive as it stands. Key struggles are
around the roadworks challenges in
regard to roadworks.
East RidingYorkshire (SFi):
1.
SFi provides the
following:
a. Network changes:
All stable, changes
were made in April in order to simplify services running into
Yorkto some services
coming into York back in April to simplify them. Good
growth and customer feedback on
X46. Echoes issues around roadworks. Worries Concern regarding comments in the
press about roadworks.
•
SFr advised that states that the comments in the press are
over blown. recent press report of delays to Tadcaster Rd
scheme was
inaccurate.
b. Impact of £2 fare scheme extension
£2
fareir
has resulted in significant
patronageseen a lot
of growth.
Operational
overview: BSIP+
plus enhancements to rural services have gone inbeen registered for rural
services.
Transdev
(PT)[xxx]
1.
PT update:
a.
Network changes
- none.
b. Impact of £2 fare scheme extension
Interim Funding given to
take £2 fare to December has been given. Cannot sign up the
2024 programme until next year, there is a level of
uncertainty.Interim funding
received from DfT to continue £2 fare until end of December.
Operators have not yet been given the opportunity to sign up to the 2024
programme, so there is a level of uncertainty around
this.
PT
Further
echoesagreed with
earlier comments around roadworks.
[xxxYork
Pullman
(TJ)]
TJ hasNothing to no update.
KM noted that CPT is looking into the scale of the challenge to operators once the £2 fare scheme comes to an end, bringing the risk of cliff-edge fare increases.
7) Group Updates and Actions
a.
EP Forum
(Andrew McGuinnessM)
i. Administrative challenges have led to difficultiescirculating meeting papers. JW confirmed that this is due to CYC staffing issues and the issue will be addressed very soon.
ii.
AnHeld accessibility event
was held in September, with approximately 200 attendees.
The purpose of the event
wasEvent
purpose: to listen to passengers and to help passengers that may have issues
boarding buses practiceand to allow
residents with disabilities to practice boarding
different buses without any time
pressure. Many attendes
reportedly voiced concerns about the available space for wheelchair users aboard the
new electric buses. Event was very successful and further events
will be scheduled going forward.Other events like this to take place.
iii. EP Forum has had discussions regarding bus punctuality.
iv. EP Forum is seeking to recruit additional members- currently proving difficult to find stakeholderrepresentatives for youth/education, healthcare and business.
v. Request for all outstanding EP Forum and ODG papers to be published online as soon as possible.
b.
Performance Group
(Sam FryersSFr)
i. Actions to address punctuality issues due to major highways works.
ii.
Weekly Tadcaster Rd update meetings will be held
between CYC and operatorsWeekly updates regarding Tadcaster
road until all
disruptive works
are is
completed.
iii.
Temporary traffic signals at York
College lights will be removed in
earlyto be turned off
in November- these have
been the main source of delays. Though, Temporary traffic signals will control still be needed at the St Helen’s Road junction.
iv. 2 weekend closures of Queen Street in Q1 2024 to bring down the bridge. Plan for diversions is being worked on.
c. Ticketing Group (Paul Turner)
i.
Review of All York
Family summer discount:,
Scheme was very successful with
36,700 tTickets sold across all operators
over summer. Reimbursement cost was £125k700, slightly over
budget.
ii. Youth fares update- suggest extending current trial to 31/1/24 to better align with future EP decision-making opportunities. No additional budget approval required for extension.
d. Marketing Group (Lara Thornton)
i. Media briefing took place in early September.
ii.
Schools o-Outreach work to be looked into
off the back offollowing the success of the
accessibility event.
iii. York Family ticket offer went very well. A lot of positive feedback.
iv.
Radio ads targeting
drive time parents to encourage young
personsYPs
to get the bus, a. As well as advertising children under 5 go
freeimproving
awareness of the free travel scheme for accompanied
children.
v. Major public consultation into all areas of transport, originally for LTP and will now encompass every aspect of transport. Further update in the next few weeks.
e. Infrastructure Group (Richard Hampton)
No further updates- all covered in item
4.
f. Passenger Liaison Group (Duncan McIntyre)
i. Role of the group is to encourage people to have a say regarding buses.
ii.
First meeting was
in September, they are to, the group discussed
get ideas on how feedback
can be obtained.
iii. There is a need to go and organise events for the public. There is a staffing issue around this. Potential to piggyback on some CYC events.
·
TB advises suggested that consideration needs
to be given on how the bus forums are
ranto how the
various bus user groups relate to one
another.
o
DM
agreeds that Iinput from operators would be
helpful.
o
SFr notes some caveats to the Bus
Forumnoted that the EP Forum and the York Bus Forum
are separate entities.
The,
itYBF is entirely independent
of the Council and does not necessarily
represent the views of all
passengersof the Enhanced
Partnership, but is
represented on the EP Forum and
ODG.
Action:
Impact of
Ppassenger Lliaison gGroup to be reviewed at the next
meeting.
8) Major Schemes update (Michael Howard)
· Lots of progress with EP and BSIP- good to see.
· Tadcaster Rd works will cease by the start of the annual Christmas embargo. Overnight resurfacing to take place in New Year.
·
Station
Road frontage- works have commenced on Queen St slip
road. should not have
any impact on bus services in the medium – long term. CYC is engaging with bus operators in regard to
weekend closures. Some disruption is inevitable with a scheme of
this size, but everything possible will be done to keep disruption
to a minimum and ensure
everyone is properly informed.
·
Outer Rring Rroad to go to planning,
deliverywork is still a way off.
9) BSIP funding requests (key decisions with impact above £50k shown in bold):
a. Approve £45k from BSIP network support revenue to extend support of early morning and evening journeys on services 1, 4, 6 and 10 for a further 4 months until 30/4/24 to enable findings of upcoming Network Review to be presented to CYC Executive and EP.
[Unanimously
aApproved.]
b. Approve £49k from BSIP network support revenue to support service 19 until 30/4/24 pending Network Review.
[Unanimously approved.]
10) Annual review of EP Plan and Scheme
a. Documents are subject to annual review ahead of 31st March 2024. EP members have the opportunity to propose any amendments. Proposed amendments are to be voted upon at the next ODG meeting, if accepted, any substantive changes will require consultation. A report will be returned to the January ODG meeting if any substantive changes are proposed.
SFr –
suggested update the EP Plan narrative to take account
ofdevelopments during the last 12
months, along withupdated delivery dates etc.
but
nThese amendments will not be of a substantive nature therefore
will notothing that
would require a
statutoryfull consultation process.
Action: All to send any further proposals for Operators to put
in proposed amendments to
the York EP Plan and Scheme to SFr ahead
of by
Christmas at the latest.
11)Agree future meeting dates, times and locations:
a. Next meeting, 1100-1300, Thursday 18th January ‘24 (online)
KM is unavailable that day, so
Aalternative dates willto
be looked at.
b. April “AGM”, Thursday 18th April ‘24 (in-person at West Offices)
This will be hybrid.Hybrid facilities will be available for anyone
unable to attend in person.
c. Thursday 18th July ’24 and Thursday 17th October ’24 (online)
12)Any other business
No other business from members.